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haku
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 Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| i actually believe illidan can be flipped down to become a generic 5/35 |
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Hatekeeper
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| haku wrote: | | i actually believe illidan can be flipped down to become a generic 5/35 |
301.4 Master heroes, unlike other heroes, start the game in a deck and can be played. A Master hero
enters a party face up with the same attachments, counters, damage, and ready/exhausted state as
that party’s previous hero, and then that previous hero is removed from the game. None of this
uses the chain. Any links targeting that previous hero now target the Master hero, and any
modifiers to that previous hero now apply to the Master hero within their durations.A Master
hero can’t be flipped or turned face down, and a hero removed from the game this way can’t
leave that RFG zone.
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Hatekeeper
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| Why would u want to flip him down (if you could ), he's got a funky ability anyway |
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gsinspirer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Hatekeeper wrote: | | Why would u want to flip him down (if you could ), he's got a funky ability anyway |
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@wayfinder: Yes, I know that Spell Ricochet doesn't target. And sorry, reading the CR again, I realize that effect resolving happens before the card is off (gar you said it wasn't that time!!!)
For further clarification, 709.2 from the CR.
b. If the link has not been interrupted, resolve it. To do so, its controller must process its text in order. If a link tells a player to take an action, that player makes all choices for that action that were not already made, and must make choices so that action is actually taken if possible.
blahblahblah important part
g. As the last part of resolving a link, one of the following happens....
a non-ongoing ability creates one or more modifiers. Then if it's still on the chain, it's put into its owner's graveyard.
In short, spell ricochet can cause nether fracture to target it. =(
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5ivenine
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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hmm another qn stil about nether frac and spell rocochet..
can i target it to interrupt nether frac instead??
i mean for the case of mystic denial so that mystic denail cnt interrupt the nxt card.. |
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gsinspirer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, a link can't interrupt itself.
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5ivenine
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| lolx thxs den , anyway i think i'll be able to allow mystic denail to target spell recochet, den since spell recochet get resolves and goes into the grave yard , mystic denial will have no legal target and will therefore be interrupted instead and goes into the graveyard rite? |
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wayfinder
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Joined: 02 Jun 2007
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Location: Serangoon / Singapore
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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yes that is true. as mystic denial only has 1 target, and the target will cease to exist when the denial resolves, the entire card will be interrupted and goes into the graveyard
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5ivenine
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| okiie thxs den. |
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5ivenine
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 3:25 am Post subject: |
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hey one funny qn that i would like to ask
imagine this situation , pretty funny if it ever happen
lets say u managed to use sayge to steal a face smash and cheat death from an opponent ,
then say a few turns ltr , when sayge is dead leaving a faesha firestalker on the field..
then if u play equalize , responds by playing face smash on faesha , then u cheat death to remove the hero out of game, then using faesha to destroy all resource and exhausting her to destroy herself..
doesnt that mean ur opponent jus lose? |
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twinklefeet
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 10:52 am Post subject: |
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the Reprisal card in DoW, how to be used?
If the hero used the weapon to swing this turn, means i can destroy it by the end of this turn? Likewise, cards like Savage fury
| Quote: | | When you play a Feral ability, if you control a Form, your hero may deal 2 melee damage to target ally. |
Can i use Reprisal to destroy it if the player controlling it already activated the clause to deal 2 damage this turn? |
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gsinspirer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| 5ivenine wrote: | hey one funny qn that i would like to ask
imagine this situation , pretty funny if it ever happen
lets say u managed to use sayge to steal a face smash and cheat death from an opponent ,
then say a few turns ltr , when sayge is dead leaving a faesha firestalker on the field..
then if u play equalize , responds by playing face smash on faesha , then u cheat death to remove the hero out of game, then using faesha to destroy all resource and exhausting her to destroy herself..
doesnt that mean ur opponent jus lose? |
... yes we have discussed this like a million times lol. You try getting your opponent to play Cheat death and face smash in the same deck, yo! <_<
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gsinspirer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| twinklefeet wrote: |
the Reprisal card in DoW, how to be used?
If the hero used the weapon to swing this turn, means i can destroy it by the end of this turn? Likewise, cards like Savage fury
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When you play a Feral ability, if you control a Form, your hero may deal 2 melee damage to target ally.
Can i use Reprisal to destroy it if the player controlling it already activated the clause to deal 2 damage this turn? |
In short, yes you can destroy it as long as it does damage. Yes you can use Reprisal to destroy Savage Fury.
Refer to 408.3d in the CR: An association with an ability or an equipment.
A packet created during combat conclusion is dealt with a weapon if it was dealt by a hero after its controller struck with that weapon in that combat.
A packet created outside of combat conclusion is dealt or healed with a card if that card was the source of the modifier that created it... Example:... Each of those packets is dealt BY your hero WITH an ability.
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5ivenine
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| Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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hmm , lets say if my opponent have personal weather maker , revealing a ally , then he puncture/sudden death my ally , can i spell recochet changing the target to his ally?
as personal weather maker says that "Opponents can't target cards in play you control that share a type with the top card of your deck." but i'm not exactly the one using the ability , so the targeting is not reali done by me.soooo??? |
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slowmail
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| 5ivenine wrote: | hmm , lets say if my opponent have personal weather maker , revealing a ally , then he puncture/sudden death my ally , can i spell recochet changing the target to his ally?
as personal weather maker says that "Opponents can't target cards in play you control that share a type with the top card of your deck." but i'm not exactly the one using the ability , so the targeting is not reali done by me.soooo??? |
You can play Spell Ricochet, but when it resolves, you can't change the target to one of his allies; because you must 'target' the new target with the link.
706.2 Some modifiers tell a player to “change” the single target of a link to a second target. To do so, that player targets that second target with that link, but its target description continues to be read from the perspective of that link’s controller (so “opposing” continues to mean opposed to that player, and so on). If no legal second target can be chosen, that link is not changed.
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